I was going to respond but accidently lost my post so I will do it tomorrow. I'm just too tired now.
I just want to add, this is not a cop-out.
i started this on another thread so a lot of it is in response to nathan's.. there is still free speech, even for christians.
a lot of people would like to take free speech away from christians; that we keep our mouths shut.
as americans, what do you think of the fairness doctrine that henry waxman wants to revive?
I was going to respond but accidently lost my post so I will do it tomorrow. I'm just too tired now.
I just want to add, this is not a cop-out.
i started this on another thread so a lot of it is in response to nathan's.. there is still free speech, even for christians.
a lot of people would like to take free speech away from christians; that we keep our mouths shut.
as americans, what do you think of the fairness doctrine that henry waxman wants to revive?
I started this on another thread so a lot of it is in response to Nathan's.
There is still free speech, even for Christians. A lot of people would like to take free speech away from Christians; that we keep our mouths shut. As Americans, what do you think of the Fairness Doctrine that Henry Waxman wants to revive? Do you think it will be fair towards Christians? Should we, as Christians, cower when someone is offended or irritated by our ignorance and superstitions and profusely apologize?
The Fairness Doctrine: http://www.nysun.com/article/64242
I realize that this past week has been an emotional time for a lot of us so I hope that I can keep civil. I perceive you in this instance as being very insensitive. I sense that you loved the idea of shaking us out of our fantasy land, much like shaking the Christian out of his fantasy land. I am not an insensitive clod that tramples on other peoples rights, I would never deliberately offend someone and I hope that this thread doesn’t come across that way but I am offended by your comments. Even now I feel I have to be selective with my wording not to offend, yet you don’t seem to have a problem offending.
You believe that God is a myth? I say that God is real. Prove to me that He's a myth? You can't any more than I can prove His existence. Science is real. It will go on with or without humans, with or without our opinions. Evolution (in the sense that Atheists believe it) and Religion are both belief systems.
But now I will most likely state something that may offend you. You state that you will exercise your right to offer rationality as a substitute for superstition at every opportunity. Do you think it's rational to believe that the universe was created out of nothing? Will you explain the Theory of Common Descent; that all species share common ancestors, back to a single common ancestor of all life.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
the two incidents that the two of you created left an indelible mark.
im not sure if either one of you will even read this post.. .
trevor: when i first heard about your hoax i wanted to believe that there was a mix up.
RollerDave: When we heard that "Linda" had passed away we all grieved for him. Now when we realize that it was all a hoax we retreat and vilify him. What he did was wrong. But as a disturbed man does he really realize what he did was wrong?
I feel that what he is actually going through is much worse than what we thought as a man grieving his wife.
Many were there for him when his "wife" was dying and many grieved when his "wife" died, but shouldn’t we have some compassion for a man that is dying emotionally and spiritually. Do we now discard him and go on to the next topic of interest.
In the end he could be lapping this up and having a good laugh. But I don’t think so. He seems painfully sad and it worries me. But even if he is laughing it’s a sure sign that there is something terribly wrong. Nobody invests two years of his life planning a hoax, for what reason?
I agree that we get to move on, but unless he gets the help he so desperately needs he will never move on; this will destroy him.
We all have value and many people for whatever reason have been so destroyed because nobody took the time to truly say how important they were (in real life) so they seek value, affirmation through the Internet.
I’m not here to say that we should hold his hand and take abuse. I do believe that we need to move on. I just hope that he gets the help he so desperately needs, that he does have value, if he would only be true to himself.
please read about this common danger and pass along to your friends and family.... .
http://www.dhmo.org/.
nvr: thanks, I really needed a good laugh. I've copied it and am putting it in my recipe book.
when you see someone needing help in a public place?
i usually avoid eye contact, but then feel guilty all day.
for instance when you pull up to a light and people are standing there with a sign or actually walk up to your window...i won't ever roll down a window.. today i pulled into the local grocery store parking lot, and there standing with a walker, was a middle aged latino man with his lower legs in some sort of braces.
Hi Restrangled: I think what you did came from the heart. We are all so busy with our lives that we miss so many opportunities to help others going through difficult times. Sometimes we have pain ourselves and either we sense a common bond or we become isolated and feel only our own pain. I realize we have to be very careful what our motivation is, but when we reach out to others to ease their burden, whatever our motivation, if it truly helps the other person it's a good thing.
Last Christmas I got a strong urge to pay for someones groceries at the check out but I chickened out, feeling that I would be centered out and maybe offending the person. I know there's better ways, helping out in soup kitchens, giving to community services etc. Sometimes even a smile or a compliment can go a long way, making the person feeling some worth. It could be the only affirmation they get.
the two incidents that the two of you created left an indelible mark.
im not sure if either one of you will even read this post.. .
trevor: when i first heard about your hoax i wanted to believe that there was a mix up.
The two incidents that the two of you created left an indelible mark. I’m not sure if either one of you will even read this post.
Trevor:
When I first heard about your hoax I wanted to believe that there was a mix up. I haven’t been here that long but when you mentioned that your wife was dying of cancer, I along with a lot of people, felt compassion for you. I lost a brother in law to cancer so I knew a little about how you would feel.You had been here more than two years. You seemed genuine. I went over some of your posts and Linda’s? posts. After the fact it didn’t take much to realize that you had similar styles.
When I first saw your picture with the scribbled hair I got angry. It was like in your face you fools. But something kept nagging. Now maybe I’m still the fool. Many, like me, feel that you aren’t well and in need of help. That still stands.
But I don’t think that you would physically harm anyone. I still don’t want anyone to take their guard down though just in case. The picture now shows a very sad and lonely man. As people we tend to have a mob mentality. I’ve witnessed it before, and I’ve witnessed it here. I was a part of that.
There is still a small part of me that says that you deliberately set this up to show how gullible and how easily swayed people are. But the bigger part of me thinks that you are in a lot of pain. I may get flack from this post but right now my concern is for you.
During your time of grief I prayed for you even though you were an atheist. I will now continue to pray for you, that you will find the peace, that God will hold you tight and protect you in your time of need, that you will be guided to people that will help you. But don't seek the help here. The trust is broken. We don't know if you will continue to play games with us. Please take care of yourself.
Danny: First I want to say that I don’t condone what you did to those men. I saw the video and it didn’t seem that there was a trigger. It looked premeditated. But what do I know about post-traumatic stress. It looked you were in combat mode but you also looked rather calm and with purpose; not someone falling apart. These are just my observations and I’m not going to play psychiatrist here.
I do think that you, and Trevor, are in a lot of pain. Maybe some of it was the result of the Witness Org. But the fact is that people are hurting that have never been a part of this org. I think that the witnesses are led to believe that they are unique and some carry it on even when they break away from this org. People hurt period. Like Trevor, I do hope you get some help with this. Maybe you already are. I’m not saying this out of maliciousness or even conceit. I’m hurting right now and I’m going to get some help to cope with it. I will pray for you too that you will come to terms with what has been done to you, so that you and your family can have the life that one deserves.
while searching on yahoo i found this.
it is awful.
thought you might get a chuckle out of it.. http://ca.video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1275278&fr=&cache=1.
While searching on Yahoo I found this. It is awful. Thought you might get a chuckle out of it.
http://ca.video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1275278&fr=&cache=1
racism in the jehovah's witness watchtower.
it turns out to be a blog, but it got picked up by google news and the comments other than the writer's seem to be from jws just discrediting the post.. while he seems a little off his nut, since google picked it up, it might be a good idea to post informational comments for people who pass through..
hi nj: just click on first blue line, that will get you there.
I've heard it said, and even the mags will attest to that, that JW's took the high moral ground and were never racist. My own mother believes that; that only in this org the brotherhood accepts all races, as though other faiths don't do that. Yet this is untrue. Rutherford was a racist and anti semitic and now I find out he disliked women. But then, he was only human; humans make mistakes. Somehow this only applies to witnesses. If anyone outside of this org makes a mistake or sins, they are satan's tool.
I just skimmed over the article. I don't know if all what the guy says is true but there is a funny joke in the comments section by country girl. I'm blonde but I chuckled.
pensylvania here i come.
so all you yankie's ,,,, watch for an old, crippled, fat, ugly gray headed woman & say hello!!!!!!.
but if you are believers pray for me it is a 9 hour drive...if i dont come back in the flesh -i will visit you in the spirit .
Watch for an OLD, crippled, Fat, ugly gray headed woman
Grace you could always leave her at home and go by yourself.
Anyway, have a safe trip and a wonderful time at the convention.